A Message For You

     April 09, 2000



Beloved Ones, a preface is being added to this newsletter, which has been in progress for a few days. As of this date, which is the sixth of April, we have received the following information. Rather than restructure what is already written, this is added at the beginning, as it is very important that you know it.

This information, which is being imparted herein is from a very reliable source; and I am writing this to you, as it was told to me.

    1. Certain naval operations have reportedly been placed on high alert, for fear of an impending attack from China.

    2. Officers of the United States military are now being forced to take the computer chip, "the mark" or be court-marshaled. However, we have heard that this has been going on for some time, at least one and one half years, or more.


    4. Personal reports from taking this mark include an inability to maintain a train of thought, "it is like my thoughts are not my own." Feelings of doom and gloom and deep regret for taking this diabolical form of mind control dog those, who take it.



(The following was written before we received the above information, but it is still very much applicable.)

Our Cherished Brothers and Sisters, Dennis and I pray that you are well physically and that you are recognizing the need for increased spiritual discipline in these most perilous times. With each passing day, each of us needs to spend more time with our Precious Lord Jesus, that we can be strengthened; as the world around us is has absolutely gone awry. Daily, we are witnessing more boldness on the part of Lucifer, who is determined to wipe out every last vestige of Christianity in this world. Whether it is through direct assault, as in Africa and Southeast Asia, or whether it is through the more subtle and insidious schemes of mind control and moral decadence, Satan is gaining ground all around the world. It saddens us so to see what is unfolding, especially in this country, which was created as one country under God. How our Lord must weep at what He sees in this morally decadent society! For so long, He has warned each of us to come out of the world and to give up television, to give up movies and to spend more time in prayer with Him and with our Father; but it is greatly apparent that so very few are hearing. While the Satanists/communist in Washington work overtime to bleed this land of its worth and to steal more and more of our freedoms, thereby enslaving each of us, a largely zombied-out populace sleeps on.

Most recently, I read an article on WorldNet Daily which was about the implantable bio-chip, called the Digital Angel. The author of this article went on to say that he never believed that a time would come when the people were ready to be enslaved by this "mark," but he revealed that he now believes that we have reached such a time. As I sat and pondered what the man was saying, the situation regarding the vaccinations and desert storm came to my mind; and I could not help but recall how many hundreds of thousands had willingly taken these vaccines, to their own detriment. I thought of all, who had died from this terrible Gulf War Disease, how the FDA had proclaimed the anthrax vaccine "unsafe", and how Hitler Clinton had written an executive order mandating that our military take this lethal vaccine. Even now, a few protest here and there about taking this lethal vaccine, but they are still in the minority. So, I had to agree with this author's determination, 'Yes, many will rush headlong and take this mark because it is ordered; and they will never question.' The few, who rebel in the military, will be labeled as trouble makers. These will be court marshalled and made examples of. Then, the poor and ignorant will be rounded up and forced to take it just to get a government handout. They will surely grab the captives first and give them the choice of going to jail or starving, as is the case with those on welfare and other kinds of public assistance. As these thoughts poured into my mind, I remembered having read another article in which the inventor of this bio-chip was reportedly interviewed. His purported statement stands out above everything I remember from that article, "I am a Christian!"

Cherished Ones, I tell you that humans, acting on their own, are not smart enough to defeat Lucifer. He has been in the business of stealth and deception long before you thought of being born. He and his evil cohorts have made an art of making slaves of the unsuspecting and they have had a very long time to perfect this art. What fools so many are because they think they can outsmart the prince of evil. The serpent fooled Eve in the Garden of Eden and since that time, mankind has only been a pawn for his tricks and deception. Our Lord and God Jehovah has been the only One, who has ever kept His people safe and He has been the only One, who has brought us up over time, and molded and shaped us with appropriate beliefs and behaviors, which could save our souls. Over thousands of years, Lucifer has given power to his dark religions and every one of them has fallen. Sure, they have had days in the limelight; but their demise has always been certain. Such has also been the case with our God Jehovah's errant and Chosen People, the House of Israel. Over and over, they have risen to new heights of prosperity in the world, nurtured and protected by our Lord and God, only to become wicked again. Over and over they have turned from God in their prosperity to cavort with the darkness of the world and each time it has been to their own demise, for they have been destroyed. But, there is one great difference between the Luciferian religions and the one and only, the true church, as set up by out Lord Jesus and God Jehovah. Those, who are obedient to our Lord and God over time, who persevere in obedience, even until the end, have an eternal reward in a land of absolute love, peace, beauty and joy, the likes of which no man has even seen. But, I tell you now that those, who follow after evil have no such reward! They will most certainly go into a land of great darkness, and meet a fiery and awful fate. Their suffering on this Earth has been nothing compared to what awaits them in death; and their time of glory and fame here is indeed short-lived! Hell is full of the rebellious; and I tell you it is expanding all the time!. There are several books, which have been written about the poor souls, who find themselves in hell; but I have yet to read of a single person, who has ever wanted to go back there!

We do not have to be very smart to see that the world, as we know it , is on the very eve of destruction. Yet, Rome parties on! The threshing machine of world communism and Satanism is churning. The poor communists do not know that they have also been duped by the Satanists. Though they make good bed partners for now, the duped communists will soon realize that their bed fellows believe in a god; and this god is Lucifer. I wonder what will happen when they no longer have the Christians as a major force to contend with. The visions given to me show an ultimate war between the very factions, which are now bed partners. The goal of the communists is to stamp out and/or control all religions; but the Satanists are out to set up their own worldwide religion. The communists believe that there is no god; but the Satanists worship Lucifer. Herein lies the great difference!

As the struggles evolve between these forces of darkness, they will have no hope; and neither will they go in faith. Over and over again, the communists will lose ground to the Luciferians and here and there the Luciferians will lose ground to the communists. In this dark day, millions of lost souls are being sifted as chaff and burned in the furnace of brutality and rebellion. When Lucifer has the great showdown with the Arabs and the communist Chinese, the whole world will be on the brink of destruction. At this time, our Lord will return to claim His Faithful; and He will set up His kingdom.

We, who are vigilant, know what is coming, both good and bad; and we hold the faith for the glorious times ahead. We know that whatever persecution we must endure, we shall gladly endure; for the love of our Lord sustains us! We know that in and through Jesus Christ is our victory! There is none other! And when we see this worldly set-up fall on its head, we do not fret, for we know that all evil must fall. So, we peacefully wait and watch, as all is unfolding as it should.

No longer do I obsess about seeking our Lord's mercy for an errant and stiff-necked people. No longer do I plead for the stay of His judgement on this rebellious world. I just ask that His will be done, seeking to live accordingly; and I hope and pray that you are doing the same. The hand of our God's judgement is falling on the USA right now; and He is no longer hearing certain cries to hold back this judgement. I only ask that He keep His Faithful beneath His wings and that He show these Faithful Ones His Way at all times.

Cherished Ones, if you do not have Jesus in your life, you are in a deep mire at this time. Satan is loosed and his fury is upon the House of Israel and any, who might be connected with it. It really does not matter whether you believe in Jesus or not, you are guilty in the eyes of the Luciferians because you are a human being; and you have a promise of eternal life. Therefore, Lucifer sees all humans as the enemy, which must be annihilated. When the communists and Satanists completely overthrow this government and seize everything and kill millions, it will not matter to them if you say that you are not a Christian. What they plan to do is to bring the population count down to 500, 000, 000 worldwide. This is outlined in their goals on the Georgia Guidestones. At this time, you need to be asking yourself whether you value your soul. If so, are you willing to repent, to humble yourself before God and to discipline yourself spiritually so that you are worthy to receive your spiritual inheritance? I tell you now that many, many billions shall soon be faced with an exit from the body; and they will be leaving this sphere. So, I ask you, "Where are you planning to go?" Don't say that you have no plans; for by your very actions, you state your plans.

More on Terror from the Skies

In the last "Message for You", we showed you what our Lord had to say about the spraying in the skies; but with this, as in all messages from our Lord, He has given in part; and I have prophesied in part. Not more than four or five days passed after the last update that our Lord spoke to me one morning and said, "I have shown you much about the spraying in the skies; but I have not shown you all." He went on to say that it was important for us to understand that there are other reasons for this spraying and one of the most important reasons is for the formation of clouds. Then, He said that it is true that there is a certain component of weather control involved in some of the spraying. But, the reasons underlying the desire to control the weather are not simply weather control. Our Lord went on to tell me that by forming the clouds, the evil hoards, under the direction of Hitler Clinton and his Luciferian cronies, are able to use the HAARP to generate frequencies, which are held between the clouds and the ground, thereby creating a standing wave. This standing wave of vibrational frequencies can then be kept in place by these clouds; whereas, without them these radio frequencies would fly out into space. Not more than two or three days after He told me this, we were hit by the HAARP frequencies; and they have steadily pounded us since. Night and day, they have sprayed this area and dumped their poisons all over the skies. We have experienced very few days, in which that they have not sprayed; but when they missed spraying during the day, the usually hit us at night.

It is very important that you be warned about this HAARP. It is an ultrasecret military project, using radio frequencies, microwaves and "death rays"; and the primary location, although reported to be in Alaska, is definitely not confined to Alaska and is suspected to be on Long Island. It is taking place in neighborhoods all across this country; and there are reports of many innocent people being hit, who also live abroad. They are particularly using the microwaves, which are coupled with radio frequencies; and it is known that such frequencies can effect one's immune system and/or even kill. Our Lord also reveals that they are using satellites and even sophisticated electronic devices in military planes as well as microwave towers and a multitude of HAARP stations to broadcast these destructive rays. So, we have not only the United Nations rogues, who are spraying chemical and germ warfare on an unsuspecting populace, we have dupes in our own military, who are surely programmed to believe in the innocence of what they are doing.

There has been much research on the effects on sound; and it is now common knowledge that many radio frequencies can heal all manner of diseases. On the other hand, it is well-known that certain radio frequencies can create sickness and disease, even death. Certain radio frequencies, as well as microwave frequencies, can also create depression in healthy people; and can even drive the borderline to commit suicide or murder through uncontrolled rage. Certain radio frequencies can kill, with no visible traces as to the origin of death. Through these clandestine means, the rogues in our government are killing off witnesses and other people, who get in their way. Perhaps, this is what has happened to many of the anti-Clinton witnesses and possibly what has happened to put two witnesses out of commission in the Waco trial. Clinton and his evil hoards are very adept at killing and making it look like it was a normal death. This HAARP is being unleashed all over this country. I have spoken with several people in different parts of this country, who have personally experienced this HAARP persecution or they are aware of others, who have experienced it. What you hear with the generation of these frequencies is a very high-pitched sound or sounds, coupled with alternating frequencies; and our Lord has said that a time will come when these sounds will be very loud!

I have read that because the brain operates on AM radio waves, these servants of Lucifer can now direct certain thoughts to people's minds on these frequencies. The words on these AM frequencies are reportedly perceived by the brain, yet well beyond audio recognition. Thereby, they are able to exert mind control on the unsuspecting by forcefully implanting thoughts. I talked with one woman, who is very aware that this kind of mind control is happening to her; and fortunately for her, she knows how to rebuke this evil and to keep her eyes on our Lord and God. This person is also being persecuted by the HAARP because she has been outspoken against the evils of a Luciferian government. The persecution of God's people is at hand.

Over and over, our Lord has assured us that we will not be harmed by this evil, which is being thrust on us; and I trust Him with all my heart. Jesus is our Way and He is the only Way any of us has to combat this evil. This Luciferian war against America is picking up at a feverish pitch; but as usual the brutalized among us must not "suspect" that it is even going on.

After we put the last update on the site, the Clinton servants of evil picked up a terrible aerial assault against us and against this whole area. As you might recall, there has been a move in Arkansas to take away Clinton's law license; and another of his so-called female "encounters" has also filed a lawsuit against him. At the time that this law license suit came up, these aerial efforts intensified against this whole area. However, Slick Willie's persecution and mind-control attempts over Arkansas did not get his court date postponed until he is out of office! He has to face the music in April of this year. During this time, a fireball also fell out of the sky south of Little Rock; and most believe that it was some sort of meteor. It created a large fire and you would think that the Feds would be out in droves. But, this has not been reported; and most likely they did not come because they are the culprits. It has been Clinton's modus operandus to fire off and destroy when he has been in trouble; and I totally believe that this fire in Arkansas was nothing more than a ray beam directed at this area because of Clinton's hostility for not getting his way. (See article below.)

Bill Clinton has gotten totally out of control; and I call upon each and every on of you to fast for one week and pray against this evil, which is emanating out of Washington and the United Nations Luciferian order . While you are praying, pray against the pharmaceutical companies, which are making the germs they are spraying us with. Is Merck Pharmaceutical one of them? And, by all means include Dow Chemical. This clandestine organization would surely make Hitler proud! People, it is time that you took your role as a Christian seriously. It is time for you to engage in a mighty period of fasting and praying. AND MAKE THIS SOON. FAST FOR ONE FULL WEEK; AND DO NOT PUT THIS OFF. DRINK WATER AND PERHAPS A LITTLE DILUTED FRUIT OR VEGETABLE JUICE DURING THIS TIME; BUT OTHERWISE DO NOT EAT ANYTHING SOLID. PRAY, PRAY, PRAY ALL DAY WITHOUT CEASING. YOUR LIFE AND THE LIVES OF MANY, MANY INNOCENT PEOPLE DEPEND ON YOU; SO GET GOING. IT IS TIME THAT YOU GOT SERIOUS ABOUT YOUR FAITH; FOR VERY SOON YOU SHALL HAVE TO CLING TO OUR GOD IN FAITH JUST TO SURVIVE. DO WHAT YOU CAN WHILE YOU STILL CAN AND GET GOING. YOU HAVE BEEN LAX LONG ENOUGH!

The freedoms of every last soul are fast going down the drain and nothing is being done to stop the killing of innocent people. Because nothing is being done to Clinton and his killing machine, they are getting bolder; and bolder and I tell you that soon, very soon, they will be coming to the doors of many innocent people with some trumped-up charge of genocide (speaking out against another person or group.) Innocent people will be carried before a communist world court, where they will be denied a jury trial; (if they get a trial at all); and they will be sentenced to death, just for speaking the truth. We are now looking at a repeat of Hitler Germany right here in the USA. So, do what you can; and do not put it off!



As always, we thank all of you, who continue to send articles. We read all of them. We also pray for each of you, who writes asking for prayer. We may not always be able to get back with some of you, who write, but your prayer requests are remembered. We thank you for sharing your life's situations with us and we pray that your journeys are made light by the love and peace of our Precious Lord.

At www.sightings.com, you can read more on the fire in the skies in Arkansas. This brief article comes from that site. From reading it, you can see how little was done to determine the causes of this fire from the sky.



MARCH 15, 2000

The weekly (or maybe WEAKLY) newspaper for England Arkansas, the England Democrat ran the following FRONT PAGE article under the heading 'et ectera' by Evelyn Adams on Wednesday March 15, 2000. This was the ONLY mention of the fire story from the town closet to the burn site and a town that had local firemen at the scene.

et ectera - -

Last week I mentioned that not much excitement occurs in our little town. Then, Thursday night a strange incident occurred which was widely reported on TV and with a pretty good headline in the newspaper.

A mysterious fire near England, and seen as far as 25 miles away, burned several acres of farm land. It was first thought a plane had crashed, but that was not the case. Other theories were that a meteorite had hit the area or that the fire originated from a leak in a nearby pipeline, causing the "mushroom-shaped" cloud of smoke. The latter was refuted by the pipeline company, which stated that the pipes carried no flammable materials.

The last I heard the incident was still being investigated by the Jefferson County Sheriff's Department, and soil samples from the area were being tested.

In discussing this "big news," I almost had Number 2 grandson, who is still young enough to be gullible, convinced that an alien spaceship probably had to make an emergency landing for repairs before disappearing back into the sky.

He thought about this for a few seconds before offering his own theory: "Maybe God did it!"

Perhaps He did ... in order to get our attention.

(My note: Maybe someone did it, who thinks he is god!)

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HAARP articles

Read the following; and it will give you some understand of the HAARP Project. This article comes from www.mcn.org/b/poisonfrog/harrp.html


Project HAARP: The Pentagon's provocative plan to superheat the earth's ionosphere

In an Arctic compound 200 miles east of Anchorage, Alaska, the Pentagon has erected a powerful transmitter designed to beam more than a gigawatt of energy into the upper reaches of the atmosphere. Known as Project HAARP (High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program), the $30 million experiment involves the world's largest "ionospheric heater," a prototype device designed to zap the skies hundreds of miles above the earth with high-frequency radio waves.

Why irradiate the charged particles of the ionosphere (which when energized by natural processes make up the lovely and famous phenomenon known as the Northern Lights)? According to the U.S. Navy and Air Force, co-sponsors of the project, "to observe the complex natural variations of Alaska's ionosphere." That, says the Pentagon, and also to develop new forms of communications and surveillance technologies that will enable the military to send signals to nuclear submarines and to peer deep underground.

60 Greatest Conspiracies first reported on HAARP more than a year ago. Since then, inquiring Internauts have blamed the peculiar project for everything from UFO activity to major power outages in the Western United States, to, most recently, the downing of TWA Flight 800. (The Pentagon maintains that the HAARP array has been inactive since late last year.) Some have dubbed it the "Pentagon's doomsday death ray." Though many of these theories are, well, creatively amplified, an assortment of more grounded critics--environmentalists, Native Americans and Alaskan citizens among them--argue that the military does indeed have Strangelovian plans for this unusual hardware, applications ranging from "Star Wars" missile defense schemes to weather modification plots and perhaps even mind control experiments.

The HAARP complex is situated within a 23-acre lot in a relatively isolated region near the town of Gakona. When the final phase of the project is completed in 1997, the military will have erected 180 towers, 72 feet in height, forming a "high-power, high frequency phased array radio transmitter" capable of beaming in the 2.5-10 megahertz frequency range, at more than 3 gigawatts of power (3 billion watts).


Warm, Fuzzy HAARP
The U.S. Navy's soothing, feel-good PR Web site devoted to HAARP reassures us that the project is entirely benign.

Angels Don't Play This HAARP
Excerpts from the book that posits a connection between the work of suppressed scientist Nikola Tesla and Project HAARP.

Alternative HAARP Page
Overview of facts and speculation swirling around the Gakona, Alaska, project.

The Eastlund-ARCO Patent
Outlines Eastlund's vision for a HAARP-like project drawing upon the inspiration of Nikola Tesla.

A brief biography of the enigmatic scientist.

According to the Navy and Air Force, HAARP "will be used to introduce a small, known amount of energy into a specific ionospheric layer" anywhere from several miles to several tens of miles in radius. Not surprisingly, Navy and Air Force PR (posted on the official HAARP World Wide Web Internet site, an effort to combat the bad press the project has generated), downplays both the environmental impacts of the project and purported offensive uses of the technology.

However, a series of patents owned by the defense contractor managing the HAARP project suggests that the Pentagon might indeed have more ambitious designs. In fact, one of those patents was classified by the Navy for several years during the 1980s. The key document in the bunch is U.S. Patent number 4,686,605, considered by HAARP critics to be the "smoking raygun," so to speak. Held by ARCO Power Technologies, Inc. (APTI), the ARCO subsidiary contracted to build HAARP, this patent describes an ionospheric heater very similar to the HAARP heater invented by Bernard J. Eastlund, a Texas physicist. In the patent--subsequently published on the Internet by foes of HAARP--Eastlund describes a fantastic offensive and defensive weapon that would do any megalomaniacal James Bond super villain proud.

According to the patent, Eastlund's invention would heat plumes of charged particles in the ionosphere, making it possible to, for starters, selectively "disrupt microwave transmissions of satellites" and "cause interference with or even total disruption of communications over a large portion of the earth." But like his hopped up ions, Eastlund was just warming up. Per the patent text, the physicist's "method and apparatus for altering a region in the earth's atmosphere" would also:

  • "cause confusion of or interference with or even complete disruption of guidance systems employed by even the most sophisticated of airplanes and missiles";
  • "not only... interfere with third-party communications, but [also] take advantage of one or more such beams to carry out a communications network at the same time. Put another way, what is used to disrupt another's communications can be employed by one knowledgeable of this invention as a communications network at the same time";
  • "pick up communication signals of others for intelligence purposes";
  • facilitate "missile or aircraft destruction, deflection, or confusion" by lifting large regions of the atmosphere "to an unexpectedly high altitude so that missiles encounter unexpected and unplanned drag forces with resultant destruction or deflection of same."

If Eastlund's brainchild sounds like a recipe for that onetime Cold War panacea, the Strategic Defense Initiative (AKA "Star Wars"), it's probably no coincidence. The APTI/Eastlund patent was filed during the final days of the Reagan administration, when plans for high-tech missile defense systems were still all the rage. But Eastlund's blue-sky vision went far beyond the usual Star Wars prescriptions of the day and suggested even more unusual uses for his patented ionospheric heater.

"Weather modification," the patent states, "is possible by... altering upper atmospheric wind patterns or altering solar absorption patterns by constructing one or more plumes of particles which will act as a lens or focusing device." As a result, an artificially heated could focus a "vast amount of sunlight on selected portions of the earth."

HAARP officials deny any link to Eastlund's patents or plans. But several key details suggest otherwise. For starters, APTI, holder of the Eastlund patents, continues to manage the HAARP project. During the summer of 1994, ARCO sold APTI to E-Systems, a defense contractor known for counter-surveillance projects. E-Systems, in turn, is currently owned by Raytheon, one of the world's largest defense contractors and maker of the SCUD-busting Patriot missile. All of which suggests that more than just simple atmospheric science is going on in the HAARP compound.

What's more, one of the APTI/Eastlund patents singles out Alaska as the ideal site for a high-frequency ionospheric heater because "magnetic field lines... which extend to desirable altitudes for this invention, intersect the earth in Alaska." APTI also rates Alaska as an ideal location given its close proximity to an ample source of fuel to power the project: the vast reserves of natural gas in the North Slope region--reserves owned by APTI parent company ARCO.

Eastlund also contradicts the official military line. He told National Public Radio that a secret military project to develop his work was launched during the late 1980s. And in the May/June 1994 issue of Microwave News, Eastlund suggested that "The HAARP project obviously looks a lot like the first step" toward the designs outlined in his patents.

Eastlund's patent really trips into conspiratorial territory in its "References Cited" section. Two of the sources documented by Eastlund are New York Times articles from 1915 and 1940 profiling Nikola Tesla, a giant in the annals of Conspiratorial History. Tesla, a brilliant inventor and contemporary of Edison, developed hundreds of patents during his lifetime, and is often credited with developing radio before Marconi, among a host of other firsts. Of course, mainstream science has never fully acknowledged Tesla's contributions, and his later pronouncements (he vowed that he had developed a technology that could split the earth asunder) have left him straddling that familiar historical territory where genius meets crackpot. Not surprisingly, fringe science and conspiracy theory have made Tesla something of a patron saint. Whenever, talk radio buzz or Internet discussion turns to alleged government experiments to cause earthquakes or modify weather, references to government-suppressed "Tesla Technology" are sure to follow.

Of course, mainstream science has never fully acknowledged Tesla's contributions, and his later pronouncements (he vowed that he had developed a technology that could split the earth asunder) have left him straddling that familiar historical territory where genius meets crackpot. Not surprisingly, fringe science and conspiracy theory have made Tesla something of a patron saint. Whenever, talk radio buzz or Internet discussion turns to alleged government experiments to cause earthquakes or modify weather, references to government-suppressed "Tesla Technology" are sure to follow.

Judging from the APTI patent, Tesla was a major inspiration for Eastlund ionospheric heater. The first New York Times article, dated September 22, 1940, reports that Tesla, then 84 years old, "stands ready to divulge to the United States Government the secret of his 'teleforce,' with which, he said, airplane motors would be melted at a distance of 250 miles, so that an invisible Chinese Wall of Defense would be built around the country." Quoting Tesla, the Times story continues: "This new type of force, Mr. Tesla said, would operate through a beam one hundred-millionth of a square centimeter in diameter, and could be generated from a special plant that would cost no more than $2,000,000 and would take only about three months to construct."

The second New York Times story, dated December 8, 1915, describes one of Tesla's more well-known patents, a transmitter that would "project electrical energy in any amount to any distance and apply it for innumerable purposes, both in war and peace."

The similarity of Tesla's ideas to Eastlund's invention are remarkable, and by extension the overlap between Tesla and HAARP technology is downright intriguing. Apparently, APTI and the Pentagon are taking Eastlund's--and by extension, Tesla's--ideas seriously.

Eastlund seems to agree. As he told one journalist/conspiracy pathfinder: "HAARP is the perfect first step towards a plan like mine. ...The government will say it isn't so, but if it quacks like a duck and it looks like a duck, there's a good chance it is a duck."

1996 by Jonathan Vankin and John Whalen

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